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Apr 23, 2007, 11:38 AM // 11:38
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Grrrrr, the whole mission of THK done... including bonus, and Dorian's f*cking mob wipe me!
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Apr 23, 2007, 11:47 AM // 11:47
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Natis Ignigena
Profession: Me/
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Particular mission tips:
Ruins of Surmia When Rurik & Erol get to the drawbridge, DON'T immediately open it when you get to the other side. Instead, follow the path around and you will find all of the Charr that usually rush you at the end sequence in a bowl to the left of the path. With careful pulling, you can kill all of the Charr that usually charge you during the end sequnce. When you've killed them all, then it's safe to go and lower the drawbridge for Rurik & Erol. The end sequence will now be completely stress-free. Nolani Academy After getting Rurik to the gate and watching the cutscene, don't follow Rurik. Instead, take the stairs to the right. You should now have a clear run to the end boss, Bonfaaz Burntfur (aside from 2 Charr on the way who are fighting mages). Kill Bonfaaz to win. This saves a LOT of time. Frost Gate For an easy end sequence, clear the area around the 3 levers before activating them. When all of the mobs in that central area are dead, everyone except one player with a speed boost should pull back to where you found the lever. Then, the player with the speed boost should activate the levers in the order centre, right then left. This player will probably die after activating the third lever, but it doesn't matter. It's not the fight that's important, it's activating the levers. After a short wait, the mission will complete. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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well i cleared scoundrels Rise and did both Bonus and Mission for Gates of kryta with the following build.
Warrior/Monk (Me) [skill]Flail[/skill][skill]Critical Chop[/skill][skill]Cleave[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill] Monk Hero OwUUMkG/SYOZkAiGJncRyrvEdCA 16 Healing (12+3+1) 10 Prot(+1) 10 Divine(+1) [skill]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Word of Healing[/skill][skill]Healing Touch[/skill][skill]Divine Healing[/skill][skill]Mending Touch[/skill][skill]Convert Hexes[/skill][skill]Restore Life[/skill] Elemental OgNCoMzDdDXMW3F0CkRMplA 16 Fire(12+3+1) 13 Energy Storage (12+1) [skill]Searing Flames[/skill][skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill][skill]Meteor[/skill][skill]Aura of Restoration[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Resurrect[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill] MM Hero OANDQWx2OV1l6j4oSFiJtkOB 15 Death (11+3+1) 6 Blood 12 Soul Reapon (11+1) [skill]Signet of Lost Souls[/skill][skill]Jagged Bones[/skill][skill]Strip Enchantment[/skill][skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Fiend[/skill][skill]Resurrect[/skill][skill]Remove Hex[/skill][skill]Blood Ritual[/skill] Healer Henchman and Enchanter Henchman I believe it was. Worked well...although the end of the Mission was a bit tough as Minions are hard to come buy |
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Apr 23, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40
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The 5th Celestial Boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO]
Profession: E/
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 tut tut, the Jade Brotherhood aren't going to get anywhere laying down on the job... |
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Apr 23, 2007, 12:58 PM // 12:58
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Profession: W/Mo
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D'alssio Seaboard:
Whammos are your Friend.Judges Insight is totally Leetsauce in this mission. If you can get two whammos with the follow skill builds, you can pretty much rend any undead group your encounter. The First Warrior Quivering Blade [E] Sunand Moon Slash Final Thrust Hamstring Frenzy Sprint Judges Insight Resurrection Signet/Generic Resurrect The Second Warrior: Triple Chop Cyclone Axe Dismember Executioners Strike Frenzy Sprint Judges Insight Resurrection Signet/Generic Resurrection. Keep Judges Insight up constantly on both,Make the Axe Whammo massacre large groups of undead,while the Sword Whammo to take care of Monks. 16 Axe/Sword Mastery 10 Strength 9 Smiting Then you can comprise your group of most any other class,As long as the warriors are kept clean of Blind they will do most of the work. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17
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Elite Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: England
Guild: Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)
Profession: R/Mo
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I hate to admit it, but i have a serious problem with Jokunar Diggings in Hard Mode. I done Consulate Docks with no trouble, but this is a different matter.
The real problem is that you HAVE to take Melonni and she really is the weakest link. After three total party wipes and having got no further than the first part of the first city i gave up for the night. With a four person party cap and one of them having to be Melonni, its hard to make a balanced party. I was doing this with my ranger, my main character. Any suggestion would be appreciated. The party consisted of Ranger, SF Ele, Healer Monk and unfortunately Melonni. Any tips?
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Apr 23, 2007, 01:46 PM // 13:46
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Heroes Ascent
Profession: Mo/
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My personal tip for people complaining about some areas being impossible with heroes... heroes are actually preferred IMO because they make life less hectic as opposed to pugs who run whatever they 'think' is best.
At least with heroes you can make sure they have sup vigors, perfect mods, and strategically flag them pre-aggro. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Why "Resurrect"? Even at 0 healing prayers Resurrection Chant is much better (As is almost every other resurrection spell, even at 0 points investment). And why so many hard resses to begin with? Monk: Convert hex and Divine Healing on the monk-> two costly, 2sec cast spells on a monk without any e-management. I would suggest making him mo/me and give him Power Drain and Leech Signet instead. Even with as little as 6 attribute points in inspiration they provide excellent interruption(AI) and some energy management. Aegis and Orison are very borderline too IMO... there are much better alternatives (and aegis is damn costly). If you face much ranged attacks, take Shields Up on your war. If the map features much melee take Ward on your ele. SF Ele: I guess resurrect is deactivated until needed (how often do you need your ele soft, puny to hard res though?) But why Remove Hex? You want your SF ele to spam his fire spells. With remove hex he will spent 1/8 of his time casting that spell, since there are always hexes, but either they are no threat or they are so dangerous (stacked) that one remove hex wont help... MM: Ok more hard ress... I actually dont know how effective a MM in general is in hard mode (I just expect that in nightfall they arnt that good if you face even a single enemy dervish class mob. Any AoE by mobs will be nasty too, wont it?). Good old Spiteful Spirit will do wonders. With the increased attack and casting speed Spiteful alone will possibly outdamage your (single) searing flames ele. Weakness incuring spells are very good too, since melee mobs are a tough nut and melee bosses are ... nasty. If you dont take spiteful take a hex that reduces attack speed. In general: Most of the time I would take three heroes who are X/me with power drain and leech signet. Henchies and heroes are excellent at interrupting and waste no time switching targets. The first few casts of enemy caster mobs are shut down very well by such a team of three instant interrupters. Gives you a bit time to focus on your designated target without fear of Ele spell spike in the beginning of a fight. Concerning your war: You shoud decide for a direction. Axe has excellent options for causing deep wounds (useful in PvE too) or quickly gaining adrenaline. Critical axe is... odd though. It has a 15 sec cooldown and a very conditional side effect. Taking a spammable adrenaline attack in combination with a spammable energy attack would be much more efficient. Compare your elite to furious axe. It does the same ammount of damage, but is non elite, and has just the right cooldown to be spammed (you regen 5 energy ~every 8 secs). Eviscerate may cost twice as much adrenalöine as cleave, but it "does temporary 20% max hp" damage too. on a 500 hp mob that is 100 hp "damage"... (temporary, but if you focus fire that should be enough). Take another adrenaline attack or two and your damage output will be much bigger. @hex removal: If hexes in an area are a problem take focussed measures against it (try a mes hero. Empathy alone is a great damage tool too!). You shouldnt try to spread (bad) hex removal on all your chars, weaknening them all. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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Plain and simple reason i don't use Res Chant is that I don't have it unlocked. I will definetly look into other rez options as you suggested but the main reason I don't like a Rez Sig especially in HM is that heros/henchies often use it at the wrong time. Although I will definetly take what you said into consideration and will most likely make some changes Quote:
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Apr 23, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37
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Bubblegum Patrol
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Singapore Armed Forces
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My absolute best tip for Hard Mode (although might be only understood by PvP'ers) - run everything that made PvP boring. You will win. That means (just in general); Passive prot (Aegis, Bonds) Wards and/or blindbot spam Antiwar hexes Spirits/shouts to an extent Essentially, all the kinds of skills that cause a reduction in the capacity for your opponent to do anything, without requiring any actual intelligence (can go on heroes fairly well). Been running (2man-6hero); Evisc War w/ purgesig Me/E dom with wards Dual SH eles (powerdrain on both) Dual SS necroes w/ antiwar hexes (one with well of darkness) ZB/LoD monks (powerdrain/leech sig on both) 4-person areas Me/E wards E/Mo air damage with blinds Evisc War Monk Pretty easy stuff so far..
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Apr 23, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
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I use Khim and have Dunkoro join her in chaining Aegis and at the same time Herta and Sousuke chaining Ward against Melee. (I only use protection monks, btw, works great.) With a few anti combat curses thrown in, my backline can ignore practically any amount of melee pressure for over a minute. This time is more than enough to slaughter the opponent's casters. (Daze, cripple, kill, rinse and repeat.) I had it down to a routine as easy as standard mode after a few area. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:07 PM // 16:07
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
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What you do is take Razah and have him put up shelter before every mob. Flag your heroes and henchies back and run in to lure. The Boss will invoke spike you and the other casters will also spike you, but you shouldnt be dead. At this point you uncheck the flag and try to kill the prioty targets while the bad spike skills recharge. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Feb 2006
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The world just exploded. No seriously, I'm looking forward to trying this out later tonight. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:19 PM // 16:19
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Somewhere in deep space....
Guild: So Easy A Caveman Can Do It [pve]
Profession: R/E
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For all the 4 person areas we used:
W/A Cleave Dismember Agonizing Chop Flail Dash Disrupting Dagger Healing Signet Ressurection Signet/Sunspear Rebirth Signet R/Mo Broadhead Arrow Distracting Shot Savage Shot Apply Poison Natural Stride Troll Ungent Purge Signet Rebirth E/Mo Blinding Surge Lightning Orb Lightning Strike Gale Air Attunement Glyph of Lesser Energy Convert Hexes Ressurection Chant Mo/E Word of Healing Dwayna's Kiss Healing Touch Reversal of Fortune Spirit Bond Dismiss Condition Glyph of Lesser Energy Rebirth What we did for most mobs was have the ranger daze one caster and let the warrior and ele (in between blinds) train that target while the ranger would tab to another target and keep it interrupted. I still think a lot of teams out there are relying on the monk to take care of absolutely everything (healing, hexes, conditions, prot) to keep the team up. We have a good amount of disruption which can also be considered as a form of defense as well. Gale did a good job in preventing kiting casters. We paced ourselves and went group by group and the mobs dropped with ease. If you die, don't rebirth the monk if you can help it. It may take a little getting used to for those that are accustomed to the nuke-the-sheep technique, but it work well for us and shouldn't be too hard to grasp the concept. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:36 PM // 16:36
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: [Leet]
Profession: R/
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How I have tackled HM
Standard B/P group 1. Minion Master 2. WoH Monk 3. Support Monk or Ritualist 4. Choice of Curses/Blood Necro or SF Ele or Mesmer - depends what is available The rest are B/P's - preferably 2 splinter b/ps or throw in a couple traps (dust trap best choice) (traps take much longer) Basically the pets and minions are your wall. Set spirits and fire! Pull groups one at a time. Use heal command on pets if you are bow pulling If you are an assassin having a hard time try critical barrage - with pet We have replaced a b/p with a tank as well and although not as effective we still got through the area. Note Thought I should add call targets and all attack same target - makes it so much easier - and your team should all live until their monk is dead first. Two cents worth on Hero Monks - since they do not at the moment kite as they should until it is fixed (if it is fixed) use your flag controls to move them if they get in trouble behind you or someone else. Last edited by Ouchie; Apr 23, 2007 at 04:47 PM // 16:47.. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: Bubblegum Dragons
Profession: Mo/E
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So far I have only done Plains of jarin with this build. Will unlock Prophecies hard mode tonight or tomorrow (accidently deleted the character I cleared it with), get to ascalon, and try it there
Mo (Me) Zealous benediction Gift of health RoF Prot spirit Shield of absorption Signet of devotion dismiss condition Rebirth Rebirth is for those party whipes that sometimes happen. Second monk (Dunkoro) Life sheath Words of comfort Healing touch Shielding hands Spirit bond Mend condition Leech signet P-drain Heroes are leet with Life sheath. 3rd I have Koss with Eviscerate, generic axe attacks, signet of remedy, Healing signet and Tiger stance. N/me (master of whispers) Spiteful spirit Price of failure Reckless haste Empathy Power spike Backfire Signet of lost souls Resurrection signet This owns pretty much everything. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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Anyway, just had a fun time clearing Perdition Rock. It was all quite easy, the only frustrating bit was searching for the last 10 enemies that i'd missed. 1 was a Drake boss that i forgot to kill. The other 3 were patrols of Dark Flame Dryders scattered across the map, took me 15 damn minutes finding them. You have no idea how insanely easy that place is to clear with Norgu running Hex Eater Vortex + Shatter Hex and Zhed running Ward Against Harm. Basically i lure the Golems to myself (ranger), once they were close, let the anti-hex spam lose and blew them to pieces. Dark Flame Dryders... seriously, these guys are no better than they were in normal mode. Drakes just spam with a much faster recharge and cast time. If Zhed placed the maelstrom well you could take them completely out the fight, plus the Hex Eater Vortex/Shatter Hex on the Mark of Rodgorts forcing them to recast Ele Att. made them much easier. Phantom were easy once they ran out of interrupts letting SS and Empathy take over. The only problem were Hydra, they managed to wipe me once but that was due to extremely bad interrupting. If BHA hits 1 you can usually force hench to attack it keeping it interrupted indefinately and interrupt the other 1 or 2. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Moe's Pub
Guild: Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]
Profession: R/
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Even if you have one free slot, I wouldn't go with a MM for the bonus. The minions will go berserk in the second room and kill the sunspears, so you'd have either to wait till his minions die before you enter or leave it at the entrance. In any case, he'd be a dead weight. |
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Apr 23, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29
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Banned
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: England
Guild: Lievs Death Squad [LDS]
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What is it thats killing Melonni exactly? Primarily that is. Because you could probably solve all problems with Spells murdering her by giving her Vow of Silence. As for melee. Reckless Haste on Olias works like a charm, you don't HAVE to have an ele everywhere you go...
That or go as Trapper and make damn sure they stay over the traps until the melee is dead. Tbh i haven't attempted it yet. But i don't see how it'd be a problem until you reach the Apocryphia, and even then, anti-attack hexes should tear it apart before it can do any real damage. |
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